Can't remember if I've pointed to this or not, but
In a similar vein, also with Teyla/Kate and John/Rodney,
Of the Sam/Jack recs, which were all really worth reading and there is a link collection in the post's comments which I shan't repeat here, a couple have stood out so far:
Karen T's Fairytales was a lovely introduction to the ideas of possibilities being all well and good, and the loss of them painful, but in the end, it's the working side by side that they're living for. PG.
For the adult end of the spectrum, loved this one: Unspoken, by
Also by Elly, a tag for Death Knell that got me thinking: Rationale, NC-17. Because, it's an exploration of slightly fuckedupedness + compromised mental state (exhaustion) + attraction leading to illogical conclusions. Now, this probably wasn't what was intended, but I love the idea that these two ridiculously messed up people (it's a messed up ship, it is) might have been sleeping together for years. YEARS, and telling each other and themselves that sex is different from emotion and separate from team issues or personal life and they might have actually believed it. Just the notion that they could both be able to get that messed up and wrung out that a conclusion like that would make sense. It's a fuckbuddies idea, only not. Somehow, that would make the years of pining so much more acceptible to me, if they were doing something, even if it was just making this more messed up.
Another nice messed up tag for Death Knell: No Quenchless Autumn Breezes by lyssie, which is Sam needing something not delicate and going to Jack; it goes right along with my deeply held believe that Pete was way too vanilla, and that was the problem for Sam ultimately.
Loved the Jack POV in this, because it really is about him and his whole life, of which Sam is a new adventure, but not the only one. Also loved the impression that for Jack, it was doing that mattered, not emotion, not any notion of forever or soulmates, just that they had made it there. Chronology, PG, by A.j. Wonky formatting that appears to be an artifact of posting as a .txt file.
Conversing With Cliffs by randomleaves/JoJo. Really liked this a lot. For Sam having friends of the female, military, smart & funny variety, for someone else opening their eyes to the possibility of having it all, and for, in the end, being competent people saving each other's arses first, with the revelations to be considered at some future time.
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Date: 2006-07-10 02:07 pm (UTC)I do admire the way you read across the spectrum of fic pairings; I keep meaning to try a Sam/Jack just to see but there's always new Jack/Daniel I haven't read and so...
But I know where to come when I do :-)
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:25 pm (UTC)If only I could finish the mildly kinky one that I started, eh? Alas. Not only do I not have a lot of time, I also don't really know what direction I'm going with it.
Anyway, those stories up there *points at Sam/Jack stories* Are not only short, but they avoid most every cringeworthy cliche that put me off the pairing to begin with. Solid characterization, and in some cases, very little deviation from canon behavior. I was impressed. I didn't fall head over heels the way I do for Jack/Daniel, partly because the reasons Sam and Jack stay apart are annoying while the reasons Jack and Daniel stay apart are sympathetic (to me), I think, but I was very impressed with the stories and the execution.
You could read Fairytales in 5 minutes if you just wanted something to try.
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:50 pm (UTC)But it's no use; I was just waiting for Jack to turn to Daniel for comfort. I'm a diehard slasher now.
It's odd; I love Sam in a threesome with the boys (or a foursome) and I've enjoyed some Sam/Teal'c and Sam/Daniel... but I cannot see her with Jack.
Oh, well.
And good luck on your fic! I've almost finished that Eclipsed snippet you provided the idea for and yippee, I can make it part of the main fic which is handy.
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Date: 2006-07-10 07:52 pm (UTC)It's the broccoli test, man. They cannot pass the broccoli test.
I'm so excited about that snippet, and to have provided something that can be used in the greater Eclipsed scheme of things. I'd honestly forgotten about it, so that makes it all the more awesome. Happy to help! Always happy to brainstorm.
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Date: 2006-07-10 07:58 pm (UTC)Sam didn't have to be one of the boys; she just had to be one of the team. I'd have loved to see some teasing, both directions, some easy cameraderie off-duty. You can't tell me Kawalksky and Jack didn't have that, despite the difference in ranks.
Total waste bringing in the smoochies and the longing looks and all that. So predictable.
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Date: 2006-07-10 08:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-10 08:53 pm (UTC)It's shocking that that doesn't happen more often, really.
*fixes*
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Date: 2006-07-10 09:06 pm (UTC)They did a decent job with Sam & Daniel friendship and Sam & Teal'c too. Maybe they thought they had enough coed friendships ('but, we already have a black person on the show' mentality) and that a little UST would be refreshing? I dunno. I have a squick about relationships without the ability to communicate, I totally admit it. Don't mind squicks being tapped for a purpose, but I'm not willing to wallow in them for long periods of time without a lot of distractions.
Now what I would have loved? Is to tiptoe into the attraction, and before it got beat into deadhorsemanship, let them shake it off a bit embarrassedly, realize it wasn't the best possible solution and let it bring them (eventually) a bit closer. More of that 'little tanktop number' or the 'thing that made you take off your... on P3X-245' teasing, only more comfortably, because if they ever crossed a line, they would know that neither of them would ever go there, so a look (challenging, long-suffering, whatever) would be all that would be needed to get the other back into place.
It might even provide them with a little more common ground. Who knows? I really don't mind 'ship, even the fuckedup kind, as long as it's going somewhere.
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Date: 2006-07-10 11:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-11 04:07 am (UTC)I think it was Jenn who said something about learning if your reccer likes the same kind of ship fic you do, and I certainly found that you and Splash recced stuff I wanted to repeat; I hadn't intended to rerec things already linked to in my own LJ, so that was surprising. I did find that some in the more advanced trawling of general recs were not so much to my taste: where the author was dwelling or glorifying (to my POV, of course, caveat lector) aspects of their relationship that don't work for me, I found myself closing the fic pretty early on. It's interesting to find that I remain critical of those two in such a strong way... But honestly, your recs were all of the good. Thank you.
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Date: 2006-07-11 04:21 am (UTC)I tend to have a couple of reccers I trust pretty exclusively to always rec something I'll like, you're definitely on that list!
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Date: 2006-07-11 04:40 am (UTC)*shuffles feet*
*smootches you on the cheek*
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